a farmer in the philippines trying to buy a cow for a dairy business. they get on the website from the local field partner. then there audited to make sure it is true. if not, then we shut them down. as you get to repaid you know, the business has earned enough money to pay you back. then you can withdraw the money back or landed to another entreprenuership. john: looking at the distance i would assume most do not get paid back? >> over the last seven years repayment is an 98%? that is hard to believe. why? >> the poorest people on the planet, a 2.5 billion the wonders served by the banks don't have collateral or credit scores. but they have friends and neighbors and self select and to a group of women, over 80 percent go to women the mud theypick people that they trust. if one of the eight women the cowed dies the others will ship been to cover the loan because their future loans depend on getting more money. that is with microfinance with the working poor to get access to capital it is our lifeline out of poverty. they know they can get access to futu